tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28676316.post7360075805679131320..comments2024-03-26T08:18:06.895-04:00Comments on Moristotle & Co.: Fear in timeUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28676316.post-5625314390722663432016-07-27T23:50:53.946-04:002016-07-27T23:50:53.946-04:00Great example, Bob! Thanks.Great example, Bob! Thanks.Chucknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28676316.post-61899742554541239992016-07-27T20:49:35.593-04:002016-07-27T20:49:35.593-04:00Bob, wonderful that you remembered that scene (I w...Bob, wonderful that you remembered that scene (I wish I had a memory like that!). And, in the thumbnail for the link, I thought Anthony Hopkins (Prince Richard) <i>looked</i> like Geoffrey.<br /> Your characterization of "fearlessness" (one is brave but still afraid) is the same, essentially, I think, as Chuck's "shutting fear down" in order to deal with an immediate danger – the fear is still there but set aside briefly to be confronted later.Moristotlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02211602374384087074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28676316.post-75066577710220091662016-07-27T17:23:22.477-04:002016-07-27T17:23:22.477-04:00Geoffrey
I don't think anyone would contend th...Geoffrey<br />I don't think anyone would contend that fearlessness has any material effect on the fearful situation or environment. Fearlessness does not "make it Go away." Fearlessness enables you to deal with the reality in a more objective, productive way. True courage is doing it even if you are afraid. Sometimes it is all about facing the inevitable with honesty and dignity.<br /><br />I am reminded of a magnificent scene in Lion in Winter when Richard and Geoffrey are on the verge of imminent death.<br /><br /> "Prince Richard: [the sons - in the dungeon - think they hear Henry approach] He's here. He'll get no satisfaction out of me. He isn't going to see me beg.<br />Prince Geoffrey: My you chivalric fool... as if the way one fell down mattered.<br />Prince Richard: When the fall is all there is, it matters."<br /><br />Choose to be brave Geoffrey. No one's getting out of here alive!<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKGPiecEEbA<br />Bob Boldthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04436125539423052914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28676316.post-57016298243926247542016-07-25T15:55:15.929-04:002016-07-25T15:55:15.929-04:00My "experiment" was a bust. Just couldn&...My "experiment" was a bust. Just couldn't put myself imaginatively into any fearful situations. I could only imagine myself as calm, cool, and collected, effectively dealing with each situation as in my wildest fantasy.Moristotlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02211602374384087074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28676316.post-22127630904078249062016-07-25T15:18:24.942-04:002016-07-25T15:18:24.942-04:00My experience has been that the fear returns, dema...My experience has been that the fear returns, demanding attention, hours after the danger is past. The first time I blew it in a class 5 rapid, though, my heart was thundering as soon as I got to shore!Chucknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28676316.post-13996702911088887932016-07-24T15:21:23.854-04:002016-07-24T15:21:23.854-04:00I suspect that each of us has to answer those ques...I suspect that each of us has to answer those questions for himself, and it isn't clear that it can be done imaginatively or, as it were, by thought experiment. I plan to try to conduct some of these experiments beginning tonight as I lie in bed before going to sleep. Should make for some interesting dreams!Moristotlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02211602374384087074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28676316.post-41667175797869676832016-07-24T15:18:03.398-04:002016-07-24T15:18:03.398-04:00In a crisis such as about to be mugged, I hope tha...In a crisis such as about to be mugged, I hope that I will be able to kick the mugger's scrotum or jab his throat as fearlessly as I practice the moves at the gym, rather than be so overcome by immediate "kickback" that I become immobilized!Moristotlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02211602374384087074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28676316.post-60300532282739695932016-07-24T15:05:12.428-04:002016-07-24T15:05:12.428-04:00In immediate danger (e.g. mountaineering) I'v...In immediate danger (e.g. mountaineering) I've learned that you can just shut fear down. "Later. I haven't got time for that just now." Sometimes the kickback later can be a little rough. Chucknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28676316.post-32549889383333735862016-07-24T14:45:02.386-04:002016-07-24T14:45:02.386-04:00I enjoyed following your musings, and the undercur...I enjoyed following your musings, and the undercurrent of empowerment - to fear or not to fear comes down to a personal choice. But what if the stance of fearing nothing is a just a desparate attempt to negate something that is still present? Is anyone truly fearless? Is the refusal to acknowledge fear really<br />all it takes to "make it go away"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com