tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28676316.post9214663954195072689..comments2024-03-26T08:18:06.895-04:00Comments on Moristotle & Co.: Paris Journal: “Je vote France Insoumise”Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28676316.post-90238775855212299072017-07-19T16:19:07.356-04:002017-07-19T16:19:07.356-04:00[PART 2:]
But to touch on another aspect of this ...[<i>PART 2:</i>]<br /><br />But to touch on another aspect of this question, how long does one "hold a grudge"? And against whom? And where does one draw the line? <br /> When I was growing up, in the 40s and 50s, I remember the parents of friends vowing that they would never own a Ford, the reason being the Jew-hating vitriol spewed by Henry Ford's newspaper, <i>The Dearborn Independent</i>, in the 20s and 30s. (I understand that at one point the <i>DI</i> was distributed by Ford dealers throughout the country.)<br /> And then of course you have the question of German cars...(not to mention the Japanese!) <br /> It wasn't that hard to boycott Ford, but as time went by it became pretty hard for the Older Generation to ignore the elegance and engineering excellence of Mercedes Benz...and, later, of BMW and Audi. <br /> And so, in 1958, towards the end of my undergraduate years, my parents bought me a VW bug...the first of the long series of German cars that I have owned. <br /> Even so, if I were living in Paris, and crazy enough to want to have a car, I'd probably opt for a French maker. It may or may not be a coincidence, but I seem to see a fair number of VWs and BMWs that have been "keyed"!<br /> Finally, as you mention, there are, scattered throughout Paris, many reminders of WWII. Little signs noting where someone was killed in August, 1944, or on a school, commemorating the Jewish students who were deported, or where a Jewish family had lived until they were arrested and deported. The August 1944 plaques were there in the 1970s, but the ones acknowledging the deportations only appeared over the past ten or fifteen years. <br /><br />Questions of how France relates to Germany, the European Union, and its own citizens are too fraught and too complicated for me to even begin to talk about – not that I know that much – but they are a constant topic of discussion among my various French friends. Even more so than we here bemoan The Donald, the Koch brothers, and Mitch McConnell, et al. <br /> Bon courage. <br /><br /><i>The article my friend pasted in was Alan Riding’s “<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/opinion/la-rafle-vel-dhiv-anniversary-exhibition.html" rel="nofollow">When Past Is Present</a>.” Opening paragraphs:<br /><br />PARIS — It was planned by German and French officials for July 14, 1942, until someone realized that Bastille Day might not be the best moment for a massive roundup of Jews in Nazi-occupied Paris.<br /> Two days later, the operation went ahead, with 4,500 French police and gendarmes seeking out foreign-born Jews at the addresses they had registered with the French authorities. By late afternoon on July 17, 12,884 Jews, including 4,051 children, had been arrested and, for the most part, locked into an insalubrious cycling stadium, the Vélodrome d’Hiver, or Vél’ d’Hiv. All but a handful would be sent to their deaths in Auschwitz.<br /> For most of us, memories gradually fade. With France’s wartime persecution of Jews, the opposite is happening. For years, it barely existed as a memory. Yet, thanks to the work of scholars, lawyers, artists and a handful of politicians, awareness of this deep stain on modern French history continues to grow.</i>Moristotlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02211602374384087074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28676316.post-53294466704267227902017-07-19T16:18:33.854-04:002017-07-19T16:18:33.854-04:00[PART 1 of long comment:]
A friend commented that...[<i>PART 1 of long comment:</i>]<br /><br /><i>A friend commented that he had</i><br /><br />just looked again at the distressing photos of the little memorials to the victims of German occupation and criminal treatment of Jews and I assume others. While perhaps the users of these parks remember, the government appears to turn a blind eye as it climbs deeper under the eiderdown with Merkel's economic 4th Reich, euphemistically known as the EU. Do I overstate the case as France's manufacturing is wasted by Deutscheland's industrial hegemony? It's citizens staggering under high unemployment?<br /> I heard some time ago on France24 that over 50% of the votes in the first Presidential primary were for candidates who favor a French exit. And well they should. Love to hear your thoughts.<br /><br /><i>I told him that my thoughts on this were inchoate, which they were and still are. But I passed his comment along to my friend who owns the apartment we stayed in. His response is illuminating:</i><br /><br />The history of France in the Thirties, during the relatively short time it was actively engaged in WWII, during the Occupation, and during the ensuing ~70 years, is complex and multi-layered, to say the least, and even today there is a constant stream of comment and revelation – and even, of late, commemoration. <br /> I've pasted in below a <i>NY Times</i> article I came across the other day that touches on a bit of this. <br /> When I came to France in 1974 (under the aegis of the US - France Exchange of Scientists – an NSF program which was cancelled when Reagan came into office) my knowledge of France before, during, and after WWII was very limited. To say the least. <br /> Even so, and even though I encountered practically no specific mention or discussion of it during my time in France, I gradually came to sense that the Vichy period was the Ten Ton Elephant in the Room. <br /> As it happened, Robert Paxton had published his revelatory book on Vichy France in 1972 (<i>Vichy France: Old Guard and New Order - 1940-1944</i>). Unfortunately I was utterly unaware of it, both at the time of its publication and while I was living in Paris – though if I had paid a little more attention during my periodic visits to the Brentano English language bookstore on the Avenue de l'Opera I probably would have come across a copy. <br /> It's a shame that I didn't, as it would have helped me to understand a good many of the oblique allusions (and silences) that I encountered during my residence there. <br /> In any case, Paxton's book is an excellent – no, make that essential – starting point, the first (and still one of the best) of the scores of books, articles, and exhibits on the subject that have appeared since. <br /> The desire of nations – or individuals – to come to terms with crimes that have been inflicted upon them by others – or that they themselves have inflicted upon others – seems to be a hard-wired aspect of the Human Condition. We only have to think of a few instances to appreciate the wide range of responses....and how those responses evolve (or fail to evolve) over time. (Turks and Armenians, Americans and Native Americans, Japan and Nanking, "comfort women," Cultural Revolution, Vichy, Final Solution....the list, alas, has no end.) <br /> In many instances nothing much can be done about it after the fact. While sometimes material amends can be made – e.g., getting the embezzler or thief to cough up his loot (or what's left of it) – all the remorse and punishment in the world won't bring back the victims of a murderer. <br /> So often the best that can be hoped for is some kind of acknowledgement, and some approach to closure – essential steps in the reconciliation process. Though even that can be very difficult to attain. <br /><br />[<i>continued in Part 2</i>]Moristotlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02211602374384087074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28676316.post-10341856765528165092017-07-18T15:47:53.965-04:002017-07-18T15:47:53.965-04:00There is a town in France that the Nazis killed ev...There is a town in France that the Nazis killed everybody in town and burned it down. The French left it as it was. It is something to walk through. I haven't thought about France for a long time. Ednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28676316.post-83900147709002727672017-07-18T14:28:26.353-04:002017-07-18T14:28:26.353-04:00Thanks, Vic! I realize now that the "secret&q...Thanks, Vic! I realize now that the "secret" of getting on with blogging about a trip after the fact is just to "get on with it." If I had done that LAST YEAR, rather than daydream about what I MIGHT say, I would no doubt have had a Paris Journal then. As it is, now I am falling into the pattern of doing an entry every other day (apparently), and I can feel the momentum carrying me along like a tide or a river current.Moristotlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02211602374384087074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28676316.post-20534981784273325662017-07-17T19:57:27.497-04:002017-07-17T19:57:27.497-04:00Love all the pictures! And a nice park you found t...Love all the pictures! And a nice park you found that you didn't see last time. It is all an very interesting account. Thanks Morris.Vic M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06736914347731234718noreply@blogger.com