Welcome statement


Parting Words from Moristotle (07/31/2023)
tells how to access our archives
of art, poems, stories, serials, travelogues,
essays, reviews, interviews, correspondence….

Monday, July 15, 2013

Third Monday Random: Watergate, Lewinsky, NSA

Why do people care the least about what may affect them the most?

By motomynd

In 1974, Richard Nixon became the only U.S. President to resign while in office. As you probably know, this was because he and some of his staff were caught trying to cover up their involvement in a break-in at Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate office complex. The bungled attempt at obtaining information to help Nixon’s re-election was as ridiculous as it was incompetent. Nixon had a sizeable lead in the polls over Democratic contender George McGovern, and he went on to win the election in a landslide.
    In the years since, there has been much ado about “what Watergate did to the country” and “how it affected people.” Frankly, it didn’t affect most of us at all. A paranoid politician went overboard trying to make sure he won an election, and he lied about it after he was caught. So? Confirming that another politician was driven by something we didn’t understand but instinctively knew we couldn’t trust was not exactly a shock. And given the previous drama in Nixon’s political career, we already knew he was more off-kilter than most.
    As for McGovern, did it hurt his political career or resuscitate it? He barely survived a laughable primary process and a mangled convention, and was likely going to lose badly to the immensely popular Nixon anyway, so Watergate gave him an out. Instead of being remembered as the guy who ran a lackluster campaign and lost by more than 20 points, he is the guy who had an excuse—even though he didn’t. Watergate didn’t cost McGovern the election; Nixon’s very successful first term and McGovern’s pallid, disorganized campaign cost him the election
    As for all the “healing” that was needed “to bring the country back together” after Watergate, polls show that at the time of his resignation, 80% of the people thought Nixon should go—either by resignation or impeachment. When 80% of the people are in agreement, how much healing does it take to bring everyone together? If you weren’t immediately involved and you let Watergate negatively impact even the tiniest aspect of your life, you have issues to sort out. This was not a bunch of innocent writers and actors being dragged before the McCarthy “red scare” hearings. This was a very few directly involved people being caught and punished. If you weren’t one of those people, and you let Watergate get to you, that does not bode well for your ability to deal with real issues that do directly affect you.
    On December 19, 1998, President Bill Clinton was impeached by the House of Representatives. He was convicted on charges of perjury and obstruction of justice basically because he had an affair with intern Monica Lewinsky, and he got caught lying about it and trying to cover it up. He was acquitted by the Senate so he stayed in office. People across the country, especially Republicans, were in an uproar, but frankly, it didn’t affect most people at all. A man had an affair and lied about it. So? I’m not excusing the behavior, but most men have affairs, as do a lot of women, and they all lie about it if they think they have the slimmest chance of getting away with it. Ask people without sin to cast the first stone on that one and you barely touch the gravel pit. In this case, Hillary Clinton in particular is not a woman to be trifled with. I have met Hillary Clinton: If I was in charge of watering her flowers, and somehow killed one of them, I would lie.
    Did Bill Clinton’s dishonesty in having the affair, or lying about it, affect you or anyone else not immediately involved? No. Did it hamper his ability to be an effective president? Apparently not, based on all he accomplished, including keeping Al Qaeda at bay, the balanced budget he created, and the federal surplus he turned over to George W. Bush when the latter took office. Remember that? Yes, the federal budget was in the black when Bush took office, and it was trillions in the red a very few years later.
    Clinton’s affair certainly didn’t affect the general public as much as 9/11 and the deficit did a few years later, but polls show 30% of voters thought he should have been impeached by the Senate and kicked out of the White House. Yet they weren’t upset enough to vote Bush out of office after his first term, despite the 9/11 attack on his watch and the budget deficit he manufactured mainly by giving huge tax breaks to people and businesses that didn’t need them. Why is that?


That last question is stupefyingly relevant to what is currently going on with Edward Snowden and his revelations about the NSA (National Security Agency) and its domestic surveillance program. Until recent years the NSA existed in such obscurity it was dubbed “No Such Agency” by informed insiders who knew it was there, but were unsure of exactly what it did. Like most “intelligence agencies” its noted failures revolving around 9/11 showed it sucked up a lot of tax dollars but otherwise did very little, apparently.
    What a difference a decade makes.
    Unless you have been in a cave the past 11 years, or perhaps an innocent prisoner stuck in detention at Guantanamo Bay, you by now know the NSA is possibly the one-and-only place for a computer dweeb to get a six-figure job if they are a high-school and community college dropout who managed to break both legs in U.S. Army training. If you want to live in Hawaii with an “acrobat” girlfriend who likes to spend her spare time doing soft-core porn photos of herself barely dressed in lingerie—or in cupcakes, with lit candles—the NSA may be awaiting your resume.
    Not to distract from what most people apparently consider the most important aspects of the story, but the NSA also has a budget upwards of $10 billion. According to a year-old article on Wired ["The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)"], at that time the NSA was building a huge project of “immense secrecy” in Bluffdale, Utah, in the heart of old-school, multiple-wives Mormon country, barely 20 miles due south of Salt Lake City, in the shadow of the imposing and ruggedly scenic Wasatch Mountains. Take I-15 south from Salt Lake City, turn right (west) on Route 154, and you can’t miss the cleverly under-named Utah Data Center. You can’t actually get to the center, but if you are a hiker or trail runner you can kill some time on some of the best mountain trails in the country while you are in the area.
    Billions of dollars are apparently about as effective at buying “immense secrecy” as they are at preventing a bunch of Saudi Arabians from hijacking four different planes and flying three of them into noteworthy buildings, and in formulating an effective response against the guilty parties rather than the innocent country next door. On the bright side, those days of embarrassing miscalculations are gone and when the staff at the $2 billion Bluffdale complex is up and running, the NSA will surely protect the U.S. in the future. No longer will paying passengers have to undertake their own suicide mission to keep their plane from being crashed into the White House or the Capitol Building. No more “shoe” or “underwear” bombers being taken down by fellow airplane passengers, or Times Square terrorists being stopped by hot-dog vendors. With the NSA fully up to speed, you no longer have to count on the fat guy across the aisle winning a round of hand-to-hand combat to save the plane.
    Most importantly, the NSA will keep everyone safe without employing any of the Bush-era tactics that took away so many hard-earned civil liberties. Neither the Bluffdale complex in particular, nor the NSA in general, monitors domestic communications.
    How do we know this?
    By law, NSA’s intelligence gathering is limited to spying on only foreign communications. The NSA has long maintained that it only keeps tabs on the stateside embassies and missions of foreign countries; it relies on the FBI to handle domestic investigation of individuals—a fact that National Intelligence Director James Clapper recently reiterated when testifying before Congress.
    Yet according to an article on the NPR website (“Clapper Apologizes For Answer On NSA's Data Collection”), Clapper’s statements on the NSA’s abilities and practices played a key role in motivating the now infamous Snowden to turn whistleblower, reveal reams of allegedly classified information, tear himself away from his seemingly alluring girlfriend, and wind up (at this time) stuck in the transition area of a Russian airport.
Snowden said:

It was seeing a continuing litany of lies from senior officials to Congress—and therefore the American people—and the realization that that Congress, specifically the Gang of Eight, wholly supported the lies that compelled me to act. Seeing someone in the position of James Clapper—the Director of National Intelligence—baldly lying to the public without repercussion is the evidence of a subverted democracy. The consent of the governed is not consent if it is not informed.
    On July 2, Clapper issued an apology to Congress, saying his previous statement was “clearly erroneous” and acknowledging that Snowden’s allegations are correct: the NSA has been conducting wide-ranging domestic surveillance, in direct contradiction to the laws that define and limit its actions.
    “The consent of the governed is not consent if it is not informed.” That line should get the attention of grandparents who were so concerned about Watergate, parents who spent months caught up in the Clinton-Lewinsky affair, and today’s digital generation, which have been largely supportive of President Obama. So far, however, very few people seem all that upset.
    For those of us over 50, the most shocking response to what are arguably the three greatest governmental scandals of our lifetime, is this public yawn about the NSA actions—and about the Obama administration’s possible involvement.
    Why were people so concerned about Watergate and the Clinton-Lewinsky affair, but have so far had so little interest in a government agency’s illegal actions that may directly affect them? If people wanted a president impeached for spying on a political rival, why aren’t they screaming for the same when the spying was on the people themselves?
    If you are reading this, and especially if you have ever gone online and searched for “pita bread” or “jihad” or “hummus” then you may have been caught in the very wide casting of the NSA net. So what do you think about that? Do you have big concerns, or do you think it is much ado over nothing—that whatever the government has to do to stop terrorism is fine, even if it means your private communications may not be private?
    Please do share your thoughts....
_______________
Copyright © 2013 by motomynd
Please comment

13 comments:

  1. If Obama knew the NSA was doing domestic spying (and he surely must have) he's exhausted his supply of good will, and is now the enemy just like the rest of the political trash.

    The question is, though, is there any way to stop the spooks anymore? I've feared not since they put cameras on phones.

    I think you underestimate the importance of Watergate, though. Most of us hated Nixon, not because of a "third-rate burglary", but because he had spent his entire career trying to trash the Bill of Rights, and redoubled his efforts in suppressing dissent over Vietnam. Some of our fixation on the scandal was pure schadenfreude for a thug that richly deserved it, but speaking just for myself, I mostly
    "watched as you're lowered / down to your death bed / and I'll stand over your grave and make sure that you're dead."

    Unfortunately, the Democrats have disgraced themselves almost as thoroughly as the Republicans over civil liberties. Can you say "Patriot Act"?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Chuck, so is public hatred, rather than rule of law, the determining factor? Is that why people went after Nixon for having people spy on his opponent, but no one is going after Obama for having an entire agency spy on the public?

      Delete
    2. Let me be as explicit as possible.

      I, and tens of millions of others, followed the Watergate business closely because we considered Nixon a deadly threat to our civil liberties. We wanted him the hell out of power, for that reason first among many. His post-burglary crimes just provided the means.

      My casual observation is that I can't open a newspaper these days without seeing a few thousand words on the NSA caper. I believe the Republicans have already called for a special prosecutor. I haven't the slightest doubt they intend to try to bring him down over this. For quite a while Obama has gotten a bit of a free ride because so many hoped we at last had a decent leader. I think that ride is over.

      I read that many foreign governments are not coming down on Obama as hard as one might expect. It turns out the U.S. has been selling them the equipment to set up electronic spy systems of their own - for more than a decade.

      Delete
    3. Chuck, yes, you and 80% of the people in the country wanted Nixon out of office. My concern about the NSA violations: Are even 20% of the people paying any attention?

      Delete
  2. I agree with Chuck about Nixon. A year before the election there was a poll done that said if the election was held that day, Nixon couldn't be elected dog catcher. Watergate was on live every day and high-lights on the evening news it was in your face as was Clinton’s affair. Also, we still had reporters back then and not these spin doctors without a thought in their heads and are able only to read the trash that the station gives them.
    The reason there is no uproar over Snowden is because the Republicans are up to their eyes-balls in the NSA crap thenselves.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Kono, you make an excellent point about how deep the Republicans are mired in the NSA mess. And yes, Nixon was despised and Watergate dominated the airwaves, but how much impact did it really have on the country? Even without the help of any information that could have been gained in the Watergate break-in, Nixon was still going to win big.

      Which is why I asked the question: Why did the public get so worked up over Watergate and Lewinsky, but has basically ignored the NSA/Snowden scandal?

      Delete
  3. I think that many people are surely torn between wanting to be "free" and needing to be safe, and with hundreds of companies and government agencies already knowing so much about them, and learning more everyday, the NSA revelations maybe just seem like more of the same?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Morris, so the logic is that since Americans have driver's licenses, file their tax information, and use social media, they are somehow safer thanks to having a rogue government agency breaking domestic laws and international treaties, and ignoring the U.S. Constitution? So Americans would also be safer if the country just ignored the court system, and had police departments and the FBI just execute accused murderers when they catch them, so there would be no risk of them ever getting back on the street and killing anyone else?

      Delete
    2. I don't know what logic is involved, I was just stating what I think many people are torn between, on whatever grounds, no doubt most of it irrational.

      Delete
    3. Morris, irrational is an excellent word for the great public concern over the Clinton/Lewinsky affair, and the lack of overwhelming concern about the NSA. Same as with people being afraid to fly because 3,000 people were killed by airplanes nearly 12 years ago, but refusing to support measures to prevent the deaths of the half million people who have been killed since then on our highways.

      Delete
  4. Ok, friends..logic is very seldom in play for most of us most of the time. The 10% of our brains that are not involved in thinking about IMMEDIATE (i.e. bottom of the Maslow pyramid) needs, is focused on uh...shopping,(with an economy built 70% on consumer spending...). Yes, i often share your outrage...(not on this particular topicz...but i HAVE THE TIME to think about such things. Most folks...are too busy making a living, taking care of their family, and having fun..to consider any/all of it ..and yup, i am not surprised at the level of surveillance, nor particularly worried..and most days, i assume that any and all doomsday scenarios are possible..What if the bees really do cease to exist?...i think i'll go paint now..

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. What if the bees really do cease to exist? Susan, thank you for a great idea for a Nature column! Since much of the cherry and apple production is already dependent upon people bringing bees from afar to do the pollinating, because all the native bees have ceased to exist, your question is one we may have a firm answer for in a very few years.

      Same as we are learning what happens when people concentrate on fun and shopping instead of educating themselves before they vote.

      Delete
    2. Not to worry the Killer Bees are on the way. We just had to kill off some behind the house. It took the fire dept. 3 trips to get them and i think that the only thing that happened was they're not dead but moved on

      Delete