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- Social justice (proposed by Goines, which he loosely defined as equal protection under the law: civil rights for all [not just white people, or landowners, or very rich people, or Christians, or “straight” people, or men], and equal access to the polls for elections),
- Freedom to worship however you wanted (proposed by Curbe, who agreed when Goines asked him whether this included freedom not to worship and excluded practices harmful to others, such as worship involving human or dog sacrifice),
- Fair distribution of wealth (Goines), and
- Environmental protection (Goines).
How like Nancy Pelosi, Goines thought, itching to tell Curbe (and Speaker Pelosi too) that he didn’t think Jesus could ever condone a man in Trump’s position (President of the United States) who used his office to con and take advantage of the very people Jesus championed: the meek, the weak, the poor, the powerless.
But Goines agreed, finally, to let it go and just disagree, and never got to question Curbe on his three other principles:
- No abortions (except in case of rape),
- Marriage between a man and a woman only, and
- The Christian Bible to guide all life decisions.
Curbe hadn’t mentioned the appointment of judges as among Trump’s policies and accomplishments he approved. But mightn’t Trump (and Mitch McConnell’s) commitment to packing federal courts and the Supreme Court with “conservative” judges be the key reason why Curbe (and other self-styled Christians) voted for Trump?
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Curbe seems to represent what I call the "unexamined life" wing of the conservative movement (as in Socrates' quote "The unexamined life is not worth living"), particularly with his last three points, so totally UN-conservative in nature; true conservatives believing that one should be free in all choices which do not adversely effect others. It is truly unfortunate that "agreeing to disagree" too often means "agreeing not to discuss it". Most often, when one says they don't want an argument, what they really mean (even maybe unconsciously) is that they don't want an argument that might challenge their preconceived notions. To me, the best debate is one in which I learn something, or MY preconceived notions are challenged-and possibly even changed.
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