Entering Central Coast region (click to enlarge) |
to Pismo Beach
By motomynd
[Sequel to "Staking a claim on
California’s Central Coast"]
Heading north from Point Mugu, we settle into the rhythm of the road. The ocean is a crisp blue on our left, the sky a nearly cobalt blue above, and the sun is shining brightly. California is even better than we remember and today is all we can possibly want it to be—even on three hours sleep.
Then we get to Oxnard. In fairness, we are now about 50 miles into our trip, have made several stops, and may be in need of coffee. But—to turn a phrase—Oxnard just doesn’t do it for us. We have no intention of living in town when we move to California, but we at least want to be reasonably close to one. And we want it to be a good one, a cool one—not one that apparently specializes in window tinting and muffler repair. Oxnard does not make our list of cool towns we hope to live near.
Rider magazine offices in Ventura |
Rider is part of Good Sam Club. We don’t expect to see much happening when we drive into the parking lot on a Saturday afternoon, but we don’t plan on seeing absolutely nothing happening. We don’t even see a sign saying Rider is even based here; we just see signs for Good Sam and Camping World (another of their magazines)—and signs that say they have office space for rent. I love the setting and can envision having the office behind that cool curved corner glass back under the trees. It shouldn’t be a problem since most of the building seems to be for rent. With the pipe dream now well to the back of my brain, and the plan of getting serious about my own little motorcycling website moving to the front—and possibly freelancing for Rider on the side—we head north.
California gull and bronze dolphin sculpture |
As we blast past Santa Barbara, it looks great. We can’t afford to live there, yet we can’t wait to see it more closely from the east side as we drive Foothill Road on the way back to LA. Next comes Goleta, and Isla Vista: we detour to the University of California, Santa Barbara to see what’s happening with the college crowd.
The dominant fashion trend this winter in the Southeast is women wearing boots—and leggings that cling tightly in all the right places. Or all the wrong places, depending on who is wearing them. Professional career women rushing through the Atlanta airport dress this way, as do female students at North Carolina colleges, as does my 12-year-old stepdaughter—since all her friends do. Apparently some sort of decree was passed last fall that every female old enough to be visually identifiable as a female must wear boots and leggings, and a coat worthy of the boots—even when it is 60 degrees outside.
Here at UCSB, they are not slaves to any such fashion nonsense. Instead of leggings and boots, the official “distinctively different” look is sandals with “Daisy Duke” style shorts that are cut perfectly short enough to show some cheek—yet still be legal. At least in California. For the willowy women of UCSB who look like distance runners hanging out at school waiting to be discovered as models, this look actually works. For their less perfectly sculpted classmates, not so much. I am sure there is much more to remember about UCSB, but this is what I recall. It must be the lack of sleep.
As we walk past some shops, the wind is blowing so hard that palm fronds are dropping like bombs around us and we wonder if a regatta will sail down the street. Most importantly, my wife’s hair is whipping like crazy, and my wife does not usually let her hair whip like that—at least not in public.
Following my all-time favorite car |
Heading north on 101 we pass a patch of purplish lupine and it reminds us of when we were married in Reykjavik and spent two weeks traveling all around Iceland. If you want to see what must be the greatest stands of lupine in the world, go to Iceland.
Further along we see alpacas at a place called El Capitan Ranch, which reminds us of—alpacas at a ranch. Near Gaviota State Park the highway turns sharply inland and cuts through the mountains at Gaviota Pass.
Memorial to the battle that wasn't (click to enlarge still more) |
What our war memorials back east all have in common is carnage. If you want to earn a monument, you have to do some killing. Not so in California. Here you find some folks laying an ambush, and you lead some other people around it, and you get a memorial. Seriously. And even better, the people who planned the failed ambush are so unsettled they give up and leave town without a fight. The laid-back California stereotype apparently has deep roots—no wonder the beloved LA Lakers of my youth, led by star guard Jerry West, always lost to the much-hated Boston Celtics.
Back to the drive. We leave the memorial to the battle that didn’t happen, drive through a tunnel, and shortly after we follow Highway 1 as it heads west toward Lompoc—while 101 angles north toward Buellton, Los Alamos, and Santa Maria. We plan to see more of 101 on the way back, but right now we are heading toward the coast!
The eagle landed... |
...and took off |
The valley east of Vandenberg AFB |
By now the lack of sleep has taken its toll and we are nearing Pismo Beach, even if we aren’t exactly sure how we got here. Basically we stayed on Highway 1, drove through a lot of farm country that all looked pretty much alike, took a left and—voila!—we are in Grover Beach and headed for Pismo. In California, magic happens. Or the spirit of the eagle guides you. Or you get lucky.
Look closely—those aren't leaves (click to enlarge even more) |
Begrudgingly leaving the monarchs, we arrive at our hotel—the Best Western Shelter Cove Lodge. Due to renovations the staff are handling check-in from a small guest room instead of their usual expansive entry. They apologize about any inconvenience and the lack of a view, but we are staring through the glass at an unbelievably stunning Pacific Coast scene and thinking that if this is Plan B, then Plan A must really be something.
Full moon rising over our hotel |
End of a long but perfect day |
Two Saturdays from now: Mountain meander around Santa Margarita
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Copyright © 2013 by motomynd
Please comment |
Morris, I don't let you know often enough how much we enjoy Moristotle & Co. [My wife] was asking me today when the next Central CA update would be, and I'm looking forward to reading more about Costa Rica....
ReplyDeleteRight now, though, I'm watching a lot of basketball.
Jim, glad to hear you are following the Central CA travels. And that you also look forward to reading more about Costa Rica, like the rest of us. Moristotle seems to have found a quite interesting correspondent there.
DeleteMotomynd, I've forwarded to Jim the email notification I received of your comment back to him, and I invited him to come here, to this forum, to comment further if he would like to.
DeleteI hope he will.
Motomynd, personally I think I did a better job fitting your photos in today's installment than I did for last Saturday's installment. Looks great!
ReplyDeleteThe only gripe I might voice is that you didn't send me any photos of the "co-eds" [a male chauvinistic term, isn't it?] at UC Santa Barbara. Didn't you or Anissa take any?
My wife and I were walking behind a particularly attractive group of female UCSB students when I noted their very short shorts look was quite the upgrade from the Southeast "chunky chicks in boots and leggings" we see far too much of. She agreed, so I questioned if I should be taking photos for the blog. Her glance assured me I should not. If it had been the last day of the trip I may have risked it anyway, but pushing the matter the first day seemed poor form.
DeleteYou see, motomynd, there's where you made your mistake. By not "pushing the matter," you proved to Anissa that you didn't need the photos for the blog at all, but for your own later enjoyment (whatever that might be....).
DeleteNo, what you might better have done was to emphasize that your editor in chief really, really needed those photos. Then, to clinch it (and reassure your wife), you would have handed Anissa the camera....
The great thing about Cali is that the ladies who jug---don't need to jog. Just got in Morris & Moto that is why you have not heard from me. Took a boat trip to Tortugo Island. Really had a good time.
DeleteKonotahe, what an apt and precise way to characterize the situation of well-proportioned females out running: "The great thing about Cali is that the ladies who jog---don't need to jog." LOVE IT!
DeleteBut really, I wonder how much the ratio of well-proportioned to ill-preportioned varies from one state to the next. I don't have a feel for that.
Not to stray from the topic of attractive females - but Tortugo Island? Off the north coast of Haiti? Isn't that a heck of a boat trip from Costa Rica?!?
DeleteMorris, as to your question, I guess it depends on what one considers well-proportioned, but for the highest ratio of slimmest and fittest and so beguiling you might very well sell your soul for, I would rank Hawaii as #1, and California as a very close #2. All the other states tied for #3 are so far behind it doesn't even matter.
Motomynd, THANK YOU for consulting your store of first-hand traveler's experience to answer the question definitively. Now we know where to go for the most frequent sightings.
DeleteIf only we could digiscope this particular creature without invoking the wrath of local ordinances.
I have an idea---let us have contest to see who can come up with the best looking photos of their chosen beauties That way when asked by our wife--we can reply; "we are doing it as an assignment for the blog."
DeleteTo Moto: It was one hell of a trip---months on a reed-boat, with nothing but coconut milk to drink. Then,of all places to land, "Haiti"
I'll rest up and get my pictures downloaded, and send a story about the trip. I thought about Moto, as I swam among thousands of colorful fish, with on underwater camera---I'm sure he would have one or two in his pocket--just in case.
Konotahe, I like your suggestion for a ploy to get our wives to condone our taking pictures of girls.
DeleteI hope you will consider Morustotle & Co. as a place to submit your story about the boat trip....
And to whom do you think I was speaking---if not to you. My daughter is coming down in April--so I'll try and get it to you soon.
DeleteAs a side note---which I will cover more in my story---I met Moto's kindred spirit on the boat ride over---didn't get his name, but will try and find out. He also had camera and will travel. He had been all over the world. Very strange and interesting guy. Not unlike our dear friend.
Konotahe, I did think you were addressing me, but I wanted to appear modest and also suggest, which is true, that what you wrote would probably be publishable in a national magazine, so the blog's readers ought to be aware how lucky they are that Moristotle & Co. gets sent submissions by the extraordinarily fine writers whose work appears on its webpages.
DeleteI hope you don't think stroking my ego, will get more work out of me.
DeleteI am however, reading my novel Boystown. Someone---can't remember who now---told me: "Once you write your Novel, put it away for a year. After a year, take it out and read it. If it is still the Novel you remember writing; you have done good." I have surprised myself, as I'm enjoying the read. Not to say I'm worth a damn as a writer---but the story is good.
Konotahe, far be it from me to EVER make up stuff or exaggerate in order to "butter someone up"! I just hope that whatever work you get out of YOURSELF, you'll give Moristotle & Co. a chance to consider for publication here....
DeleteIn regard to the apparently very popular topic of attractive women: I remember reading years ago a line to the effect that a lifeguard in California will have more sexual involvement with more good-looking women in an average summer's week, than a group of young, good-looking, big-city lawyers will have over the course of an entire summer - and he will do so without hardly trying, while they will be giving the quest their most earnest and desperate efforts. In my travels to all 50 states, and other interesting places around the world, I have seen no evidence to raise any doubt at all about the accuracy of that assessment.
DeleteOh, to be young again, in California, and a certified life-guard!
DeleteWait a minute! I can't leave that comment here, what am I thinking?!
Konotahe, so when do we get the details of the boat trip? Are you still recovering from all the saturated fat in that coconut milk you survived on for weeks on end?
DeleteAnd please share your fish photos! The only reason I would carry waterproof cameras would be to take photos while riding a motorcycle in the rain - or to document my own drowning. Are you familiar with the infamous 1973 "Superstars" competition in which Joe Frazier competed in swimming? If you Google "YouTube Joe Frazier swimming" you can see his lack of prowess in water - and you can try to envision my finishing well behind him, or, more likely, my drowning while the announcer prattled on about those competing in the next heat...
Morris, when you were young and in California, weren't you in Bakersfield, or someplace similar? I doubt lifeguards at the local pool get the same perks as those at the beach...but perhaps you could tell us otherwise?
DeleteI should have specified "in California at the beach"! But I did specify "certified lifeguard"; I could barely swim in Tulare, let alone guard anyone's life.
DeleteAlso, I was glad to learn about your past association—and possible future association—with Rider magazine. While I believe in omens as little as you and Anissa seem to, maybe sighting that eagle WAS a glad harbinger....No harm in thinking so, unless, I suppose, you begin to believe it too fervently and it distracts you from the "true flow" your life seems to be taking.
ReplyDeleteNot sure whether anyone's life "takes a true flow." Can YOU make anything of that notion?
Just a question. Is Easy Rider magazine still in print?
DeleteMotomynd, do you know?
DeleteMotomynd, another possible professional activity that might interest you in Cali recently came to my attention. The young man who suggested a restaurant in Cambria in a comment on your Part 1 wrote me about what he's doing in the music world these days: "I'm mostly producing records and doing music for Film and Television these days. Very little performing. I miss the performing part of performing but not the trying-to-make-a-living-at-it part or the never-being-where-I'm-supposed-to-be part. Mercifully, I have been very busy. Too busy to focus on my much needed website. I'll try to keep you posted on anything interesting I do. Here's a link to an article and music video for a band I produced recently. It's pretty fun stuff."
DeleteI wrote back to him: "I looked at the article and played the video. Yes, I agree: fun stuff! Motomynd is a professional photographer and videographer...I'm wondering whether there might be any mutual territory for him and you to check out, after he and Anissa relocate to California...? Have you visited his website? See his photo gallery there."
Anyway, something to take note of for possible later exploration....
Konotahe, maybe YOU can research it and let us know? (what became of Easy Rider magazine)
DeleteEasyriders Magazine is indeed apparently still in print. For the record, let me clarify my magazine of interest is 'Rider' - not 'Easyriders' - for I am not drawn to Harleys, beer guts, or fat chicks. And I am especially not attracted to fat chicks with beer guts riding Harleys...
DeleteMorris, your young friend is indeed doing some very fun stuff with his video work. I particularly like his fast pace, quick cuts and creative framing in the camera. All the best to him!
DeleteWhile it would be great to daydream of possibly venturing back into that world, I recall the harsh reality of my brief involvement with the 'Baywatch' TV series way back when, some movie photography work on the East Coast, the years I ran a commercial studio and dealt with models, musicians and other prima donnas 70 hours a week - and I feel old and tired just at the thought of living that life again. That world is ideal for the young. And the single. And the urban. Since I am neither, the idea of riding around on a motorcycle shooting video travelogues seems a much wiser career path. Most importantly, it is a career path my young wife wholeheartedly supports - while just the thought of my again being in a studio until 2:00 in the morning, six days a week, would create a certain degree of tension on the home front.
Motomynd, I have let David (the young friend) know that it's unlikely he and you will be collaborating on any of his music projects!
DeleteYour reasons for not doing so are extremely sound.
Why, Moto, I love Easy Rider. The testosterone soaked posturing is extremely funny. And harmless, compared - say - to that in Guns and Ammo or the Wall Street Journal.
DeleteChuck, since you are a former motorcycle gang member and a fan of testosterone soaked posturing (very nice phrase btw), have you considered adding 'Iron Horse' and 'Soldier of Fortune' magazines to your reading list?
DeleteActually, the only reason I know 'Easy Rider' is because my tire dealer used to keep it in his waiting room. He also had a Sportster with an engraved plate reading "If you value your life as much as I value my bike, Hands OFF!" He sold me a lot of good tires at low prices over the years.
DeleteAnyway. I never heard of 'Iron Horse'. Sounds entertaining. I was once on a jury with the editor of 'Soldier of Fortune.' He and his mag didn't really fit the "harmless" criterion. There's something a bit frightening about the values of a professional mercenary.
See y'all in a week or so. My accomplices and I are going to go lurk in canyon country for a while.
Chuck, that is about the only good reason to know Easy Rider.
DeleteActually, many of the 'Soldier of Fortune' articles were little more than hype. What was frightening was the section where professional mercenaries - or just low-grade nuts off the street - could post ads seeking "wet work" and "high risk" assignments in country and abroad. After SOF got entangled in a bunch of lawsuits because of people hiring someone from those ads to kill wives, husbands or business partners, they took them out. Losing that billboard darn near put a bunch of us out of work. Kidding, of course.
Are you and the rest of the "digital desperadoes" motorcycle gang saddling up and riding out to relive the old days?
No, the Denizens of Doom faded out back around 1990. This is "Potty old farts in the wilderness". I'm heading out with my old climbing buddies for a backpack trip.
DeleteChuck, isn't the weather still a bit brisk in your area, I mean for a bunch of old guys to go hiking? Don't get lost and freeze to death, or get eaten by a bear - or a bunch of ravenous early-season ground squirrels...
DeleteNot to sound too "new agey" - but since I am a believer in nature and not much else, I actually do ponder the significance of the eagle sighting. When I was young, eagles had almost been wiped out by habitat loss, indiscriminate shooting by ranchers and others, and by pesticides. It was a rare treat to see one soaring on high at a great distance.
ReplyDeleteEven though they have made a comeback, it is still rare to see one up close. And especially unusual for one to fly across the road 50 yards ahead of our car and make a kill within a few feet of the pavement - with no other cars behind us so we could safely stop and take a couple of photos before it flew away.
Not sure what impact eagles have as omens, but I think it is significant that I have usually seen them in some of my favorite places. When I think of my most memorable trips, I think of bald eagles in Alaska, martial eagles in Africa, and now, golden eagles in California's Central Coast.
I don't see anything "new agey" about that! Nor omenish either. I think it's a wonderful and probably quite natural "coincidence" that eagles like some of the same places you do. Those places are perhaps their favorites, too?
DeleteI myself couldn't enjoy anywhere there were no birds.
Motomynd, while I'm sorry that you and Anissa didn't like Oxnard, I can't disagree with your observations...But my youngest sister (only 11 years older than I) lives in Oxnard, so I hope she's not too disappointed by that passage in today's post.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, her second daughter was a librarian for many years before her retirement last year at Santa Barbara City College, whose campus is dramatically situated on a bluff overlooking the ocean. My niece has an apartment virtually on the beach at Carpinteria.
Your niece virtually on the beach lives in enviable surroundings.
DeleteAs for Oxnard and your younger sister, hopefully I happened to drive through a part of town that gave a biased sampling. In our recent trip, the only place that gave a markedly more negative vibe was Atascadero, which you shall read about in "Part 3" of our Central Coast ramblings.
To others who might be following this conversation:
ReplyDeleteI had of course heard of John C. Frémont, but I hadn't heard of "the battle that wasn't," nor of the monument.
Had anyone else following this heard of the battle, or has motomynd now informed ALL OF US of something NONE OF US had previously known or suspected?
Morris, thank you for adding this intriguing bit of information. When I happened upon the memorial, at the pull off that apparently is the official rest area and information center for anyone driving into the Central Coast region, I thought it would be of interest only to me as a tourist. At first I wasn't even going to mention it in the blog post because I assumed it was well-worn old news to everyone who lived in or traveled through that area.
ReplyDeleteThis reminds me of when I was in my early 20s and planning to visit some new writing associates, a couple who had lived in Manhattan for 30 years. As they designed a weekend of touring, they said "of course you want to see the Statue of Liberty." To which I replied, "I hate to take up your time on something you have probably done a thousand times, I can just go there by myself someday." The husband said "actually, we've never been there. We were hoping to use you as an excuse to finally go see the place."
So true! It took me FOUR WHOLE YEARS of living in Mebane before I finally went to one of the City's Dogwood Festivals. And I still haven't been inside a single one of its many Baptist churches....Maybe when one of my relatives from the faith visits, they'll insist I take them.
DeleteYour area of North Carolina may be the only place in the world where churches - and especially Baptist churches - may very well outnumber convenience stores. Do you know if that is because they are all so full they have to keep building more, or is it because Baptists can't even get along with other Baptists so they keep splintering into ever small sub-sects?
ReplyDeleteWell, I think it could go either way. When you pass a Baptist church around here late on any given Sunday morning, you will see a parking lot full of cars and pickup trucks. And many of the latter have a rifle or two racked across the rear window....
DeleteDon't forget the bumper stickers. They love to tell the world how they hate sin--and Obama.
DeleteThe rifles are important - you never know when the Episcopalians may attack. Or the feds - never forget the Branch Davidians!
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of, two local favorite bumper stickers:
"Is your church ATF approved?"
"Guns kill people like spoons make Rosie O'Donnell fat"
Motomynd, obviously the comments on your Part 2 post are rolling in in goodly number (I believe this will be the 41st), but so far there have been fewer than half as many as the number of comments on Part 1 (83 at the moment I'm writing this), but there's time remaining....
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I'm delighted that—hey!—I'm really enjoying being more "engaged" in commenting than I used to be. It's a lot of fun.
I REALLY enjoyed the conversation on Part 1, especially with its reminiscences of California past. It has taken me a puzzlingly long time to appreciate this fun aspect of blogging. I think I'm learning from you what a huge reward it is to receive back from readers. The reward is far from all being in giving to them or in self-expression.
I think I was over-focusing on the fun of writing, editing, and publishing in the past. The future will be different.
...Yes, I know, I can be a slow learner sometimes.
The feedback has been refreshing and enlightening - I have learned almost as much from the comments as from the trip. And I have learned more toward planning the next trip than I ever could have from random web searches.
ReplyDeleteIf bloggers had written thousands of newspaper and magazine articles and received comments on maybe 10 percent of them - as I have - they would really appreciate the responsiveness of those who read blogs. While most of my old-school journalist friends harangue blogs as the downfall of "real" media, the rest of us are embracing the immediacy of it - and trying to figure out how to make profit from it. Even without the profit, it is nice to receive comments other than from readers who feels compelled to point out you misspelled one word in a 3,500-word magazine article.
Let's hear it more for blogs!
DeleteWhat are doing starting a cheerleaders camp for bloggers?
ReplyDeleteI was thinking Moto(I know that is hard to believe---surprised the hell out of me, also)if fate is the determining factor in our lives, why not pack your bags, head West, and stop where the vibes feel good, man?
I added the "man" 'cause we be talking about Cali.
konotahe, no, I had not thought of starting a cheerleaders camp for bloggers. But if I thought I could get a bunch of beautiful, naive, legal-age women to show up for tryouts, and be eager to influence the judging to ensure they made the squad, I just might do it.
DeleteAs for the unfortunately more realistic possibility of heading West and leaving it to the vibes to decide where I stop: well...since I plan to make the next trip on a 30-year-old motorcycle, fate very well may have the final say, man.
What are doing starting a cheerleaders camp for bloggers?
ReplyDeleteOh, Morris.This was a joke, but if I need to explain that-----------
<grin> No, I got it, but thanks!
DeleteYou got it? Without a translation - or a schematic? Congratulations!
DeleteAs for championing bloggers: as a 35-year member of an alleged "professional" media that has often been as inaccurate, behind the times, and oblivious to reality as our country's overstaffed, over-funded, and underachieving "intelligence" agencies - surely bloggers can't be much worse than the "pros" who gave us headlines such as "Dewey Defeats Truman" and Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq" and a zeal for over-inflating the level of threat by every purported national enemy from Mexico in the 1800s to North Korea this past week.
Hey! Must you rub it in about how slow and dense I am?
DeleteBut thanks for the compliment of bloggers ("they can't be much worse"). Of course, not all bloggers merit such glowing praise, but I hope we do.
Before the internet; I got my information off of the walls of the restrooms at gas-stations. I find that most it was about as reliable as the news media today.
ReplyDeleteIt's too bad all the hippie communes are gone. You could do an Easy Rider trip(the thought makes me smile); don't know if it's because I would like to take that trip with you or just see how you handled the scene.
I have the bones down on your poem. I will get around to the meat one day---I have not forgotten.
Konotahe, at least most inscriptions on restroom walls at gas stations excelled at clarity and brevity. They had about the same reliability as modern media, but at least they got to the point - or pointlessness- faster.
ReplyDeleteDon't know how Easy Rider themed the trip would be, but come on up, man, let's ride! We had about as much of a hippie scene in my hometown as we did a punk scene a few years later. Since I always wanted to feel more of life, not less, pot never excited me. And I was afraid to try coke because someone told me it was better than sex, and I figured if that was the case I would quickly lose 50 pounds and be reduced to crawling around on the floor looking for lost white dust in the carpet. For me the real attraction to both scenes was the music - and the surplus of readily available and sexually eager women who arrived with some guy who was now passed out in a corner, leaving them in dire need of a worthwhile way to spend a few hours.
Put some meat on those poem bones as soon as you can!
So you are the ---hole that kept taking my women!(smile)
ReplyDeleteWe will have to do a thing on drugs one day. The drugs of yesterday are not the same as today.
I'm going to sent you the first page from one of my novels. It was based on events that happened to me and friends. It's called Boystown. I think I have your e-mail someplace. And I promise, I will get to the poem
ASAP.I like where it is at now so if I can get to it, I be able to knock out. Need to go uptown and deal with CAJA. CR's government insurance. Need to renew our paperwork. later
Ha! Nope, no "taking" women here, except for my first and second wives. The rest I just borrowed as long as they wished to stay. Sometimes that was a while, other times only until the loser they were with woke up and wanted them to drive him home. That wasn't you was it? (smile back)
ReplyDeleteMy contribution to a blog on drugs would be minimal. Almost died from them twice, but that was thanks to doctors' screw ups on prescriptions - nothing illicit or colorful. Although I do remember a teenage girlfriend who was a trip when on acid: "the lights, I have to catch the lights" - bad idea since the lights were headlights of cars.
And bittersweet memories of a 20something woman who unfortunately really did die in a NYC gutter - from heroin, while she was walking home just before sunrise from a very high-end modeling assignment.
Good luck with CAJA - the one great advantage of being less gainfully self-employed in the post-Bush economy is paperwork doesn't take as long as it did a decade ago.